教本には足の角度は書いてありますが、膝の角度については記載されていませんでした。前足を打太刀に向け、後ろ足は90度くらいです。私は現時点で二通りのやり方を知る機会がありました。
I have read Jodo Seitei manual in Japanese and checked the feet position again but there is not an instruction for knees or how to use your hips. I had a chance to learn two variations of Kuritsuke so far.
Ver1は、前の手を掌側に、後ろの手を甲側に、両手で杖を絞るように握って、さらに後ろの腰を入れて繰り付ける方法です。特徴として、前の腰と杖の間に少し隙間が出来やすい。あまりやり過ぎると真半身というより、上半身が少しやや半身になってしまう気がします。5年前に石堂先生に指導された時は、そのように指導された記憶があります。この技はビシッとシャープに決まります。しかし、石堂先生から両手は同じ方向に巻くように教わったと言う人もいるので、私の勘違いかもしれませんし、体格によって向き不向きがあるのかもしれません。残念ながら、私は日本で見取り稽古が出来ないので、当分の間真相は不明です。
Version 1 is what I learnt 5 years ago from Ishido Sensei at BKA summer seminar. He came up to me and told me that I was doing completely wrong and showed me why it doesn’t work, and actually demonstrated me his technique. It was one of my rare experiences that I had directly from him and I remember this very clearly. Front hand turn towards palm and rear turns opposite like squeezing Jo, then add pressure by turning hip slightly in. There will be a small gap between front hand and hip. Also adding pressure too much might result Yaya-hanmi like posuture. This technique feels sharp. However, other people said Ishido sensei taught them differently (both hands turns the same way) so it could be my misunderstanding, or he might have changed since, or perhaps he teaches differently to his students depending on their physiques and levels. Unfortunately I am not in Japan and can not watch his techniques to confirm his current version.
Ver2は、両手を同じ方向に巻き込みます。膝を左右に張って、腰を落として、下から巻き上げる感じです。特徴は、杖が自分の体に密着することです。こちらは北海道で体験した方法です。こちらはグワッと来ます。
Version 2 is what I have experienced in Hokkaido. Turning both hand towards palm and lower posture. It feels like rolling up. Completely sideway and Jo touch both thighs/hip, therefor there is no gap between Jo and body. It is quite diffferent to how adding pressure in Version 1. This technique feels sticky and heavy. Plus, the way using a hip is quite different.
今までVer1でやっていましたが、数年前に古野先生の繰り付けを受けて興味を持ちました。私はそれまで力強く繰り付けすることに難しさを感じていました。どうも押してるだけで、打太刀は頑張れば外せることが出来たり、結局力任せにしか出来ませんでした。北上会で繰り付けされた感想は、体が大きく崩れる感じがするということです。昨年の講習会では、大竹先生より、あまり杖と体を離さないように、出来るだけ杖は体に密着させるようにお話を聞いていましたが、なかなかそれが難しく、北海道では伊藤さんと野澤さんに大変お世話になりました。小手が腫れ上がるまでやっていただき、やっと私も理解出来てきた気がします。やはり、手加減されるとなかなか技を理解するのも難しいです。もちろん、石堂先生に5年前繰り付けられたときも、動けなかったので、まだVer1で研究が足りない部分があるのは事実です。
I have been training Ver 1 for a while but I started to interested in Ver 2 when I paired up with Furuno Sensei who is 6th dan All Japan Jodo champion in 2012, 2013 and 2015. It was fascinating not only because he was so skilled but because I always struggled in Kuritsuke that I ended up using my muscles rather than techniques in order to pin Uchidachi. There was a limit from what I was doing, especially against large european Jodo-ka. Obviously I told him my problem and he explained but, it took me 2 years to understand how to actually do it.
I loose balance when Hokujokai members perform this techniques and Yasumaru sensei taught me how to receive this technique too because I kept loosing my balance. That is using hip, if you were wondering. I remember Otake sensei clearly talking about try not to make big gap between Jo and front hip, and idealy no gap at the 2015 BKA summer seminar. Apparently because some people in Japan or abroad were performing Kuritsuke in almost Yaya-hanmi position. They were trying to make sure this is a Ma-hanmi technique.
しかし繰り付けは非常に難しい。以前私が持っていた繰り付けのイメージは、横から水平方向に押さえ込む感じの繰り付けでした。こういうイメージを持つと、理解出来ないんですよね。自分も繰り付けられてる感じがして。
But Kuritsuke is difficult. Partly because I was thinking that I need to pin Uchidachi in Horizontal angle like Ranai. How do I press towards me and pin Uchidachi at the same time? Version 1 made sense but then “not make gap between Jo and your body” rule make it very hard to do. I learnt a lot in Hokkaido last xmas. Thanks to Ito-san and Nozawa-san who demonstrated this to me so many times. My wrist were very bruised. Budo Jodo is very painful and I’m glad that they didn’t hold back or I would never understood any techniques. However, Ishido sensei’s Kuritsuke really worked and pinned me so I need to study his technique as well.
何度も書きますが、私は誰が正しいとか、技の善し悪しを言いたいわけはなく、色々な体の使い方に興味を持って、杖道の奥深さを楽しんでいるだけです。書いていることは間違っていることもかなりありますし、あまり真剣に読まないで下さい。海外に住んでいると、手に入る情報も限られており、言葉の違いで伝わり方が違ったり、色々な先生から教わった様々な人と稽古をする機会があります。日本で稽古が出来る方は、とてもラッキーだと思います。海外の3年が、たぶん日本の道場稽古1日分です。
I repeat this again but I am not saying what is correct technique nor who is right. I am just studying different versions of the same techniques to understand Jodo deeper than what I know now. What I discovered is that even the feet position are the same, there are variations of how to connect your body and transfer force to Jo-saki. Now I believe that looking at just feet position doesn’t always mean the technique worked. The entire body and Jo must connect and work together when you make the techniques. That’s why I who currently planning to challenge 4th dan exam in Summer start to really learn what Ki-Jo-Tai is.
私の脚はO脚なので、膝ばかり考えていると、脚の角度が必要以上に外を向いてしまいます。決めて行く順番は、足>膝>腰という感じでやらなければ、膝と腰が決まったときに足が決まらず、結果として力が十分に伝わりません。年末年始の稽古では、膝が抜けないように、足を決める必要が大事だと私は学びました。
Like what I wrote in previous post, my feet and knee points different angles due to the life style I had in Japan. My feet point out too much if I concentrate on my knee angles. Therefor, I need to set my posture and transfer power from feet, knee and hip order. If this order goes wrong, everything goes wrong.
ところで、良心館のアンディ館長からは、後ろ足の膝は伸ばすように指導されます。Ver1ではそうすると後ろ足からの力の伝わり方が少しダイレクトになるような気がします。
Andy Kancho told me to extend my rear knee at the last training. I feel that my rear feet connected better in Ver 1 if I extended. And that made me think what other Sensei does? I didn’t have any Ishido Sensei’s Jodo movie or book so I couldn’t check his.
手元にある杖道の本や、ネットの映像などを調べてみました。体軸は中心にあり、ほぼ重心は低いようです。しかし、制定杖道のdvdとなると少し重心が高いように見えなくもないです。
I checked every Jodo books I had at home, some Koryu but all body axis in centre, knees slightly or deeply bend and lower postures. Kaminoda sensei’s book said both hands turn towards palms. Jodo seitei manual didn’t say anything apart from feet position like I wrote at the beginning. Although, Seitei dvd’s might be slightly higher postures. I couldn’t tell how they were using their knees. None mentioned about rear hand.
I kept searching online but nobody talk about how to Kuritsuke. They all talk about how to Kuriuke (=receive Tachi) but nothing after that, even in the Jodo manual. Apart from recent change in 2015 about “no gap between Jo and your body (=keep Mahanmi)”.
Feet, knees and hip are so important in techniques. I often only see upper body and Jo’s movements and miss them. And I’m sure that’s why they wear Hakama to hide it. There are so much more to learn and discover…
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17/02/2016 投稿者: yukishima
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